tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-42473476678985536102024-02-08T02:40:46.168-08:00Sandman's BB10 - Z10 ReviewUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4247347667898553610.post-29342290808200955962013-02-09T17:32:00.002-08:002013-02-17T22:31:06.364-08:00<div style="text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; line-height: 18px;">BB10 FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS: Ok. So I am totally into this thing. 2 big thumbs up. But until this morning, I was pretty pissed, and considering how to continue using my BB and GS3. Initially it was a snap to set up anything to do with so</span><span class="text_exposed_show" style="background-color: white; display: inline; line-height: 18px;">cial networking. Piece of cake, no issues there. Integrating hotmail was painless (mail, calendar, and contacts). Gmail I fought with a LOT, and that was one of the biggest things that really pissed me off. I'd read a lot of other similar complaints as well on the web, with respect to GMAIL integration. My issue was related to some security settings, and application/device specific passwords. After I realized that this morning, I instantly got my full Gmail (mail, calendar, contacts). Now I'm rocking, as my Gmail has my master contact database. The BB10 is cool in that it allows you to store contacts based on the email account they are attached to. So you can see your gmail contacts, or hotmail contacts, or facebook or linkedin contacts, or work email contacts, or all at the same time. Very cool. The only other thing that really bugged me, was the lack of apps that I use regularly. None of the following are on BB AppWorld at the time of this. TD Bank, Starbucks, Netflix, WhatsApp, WebEx, Wyse Pocket Cloud, Ebay, Paypal, google chrome, opentable, skype, winamp, and a few others I use. So this is why I was considering hauling around dual phones. I fricking love those apps and use them a lot, and have now become dependent on them. Then what I found out this morning as well, that completely changed me 100% in love with BB10, and in my mind, this CRUSHES what apple is doing. You can load almost ANY android app onto BB10. Yes. Let me say that again. You can load almost ANY android app onto BB10. This is done through a process called sideloading. deadly cool. It's not super easy, and it's quite technical, but it works. So until developers write apps for BB10 specifically, you can sideload them as long as they are in the google play store. Heres a great article that explains sideloading: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2FWYTOUU&h=5AQG1Y-IM&s=1" rel="nofollow nofollow" style="cursor: pointer;" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/WYTOUU</a> . Bottom line, go line up for these things. Sandman out.</span></span><br />
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<span class="text_exposed_show" style="background-color: white; display: inline; line-height: 18px;">ADDENDUM: keyboard and software are AWESOME...comparable to SwiftKey. Battery life seems ok as well, no better or worse than other BB's or the GS3. Like the GS3, the battery is accessible, so I got a spare as well. The BB Hub is a great concept, and it makes it fast and easy to switch between apps, accounts, and various functions. Browsing is snappy, with about a 500% increase in performance compared to previous BB browsers. I also accidentally dropped it from about 6 feet onto concrete yesterday, and it bounced. Small barely visible dent on the case, no screen, body, or electronics damage at all. By contrast, I dropped my GS3 from about 2 and a half feet, and the screen looks like a bird hit a windshield. Solid and sturdy, just like we've come to expect from our Blackberries. I will add more stuff as I come across it. There was a lot of swearing earlier in the week :-)</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span class="text_exposed_show" style="background-color: white; display: inline; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Been using the device pretty much full time at this point, and the GS3 is turned off. Slightly sad to be honest, as that was a damn good phone. Haven't started sideloading any apps on yet, haven't had the time. The more I use the keyboard, the easier it is to use. Like SwiftKey, the predictive algorithms are very good. I like the way you can now swipe a word and it will auto finish it for you. cool feature. The one thing I'm struggling with, and maybe someone here can help me out, when I am staring at any one of my inboxes, in previous BB land you could use the "U" to scroll between unread messages. I relied on that very heavily, and I organized my messages the same way on the GS3. I can't seem to find the same feature on BB10. Big annoyance. Like I said, hopefully someone has come across this already and can point me in the right direction. Another change, is that if I want to delete a message, I have to drill into it, then hit a button, then hit delete. Takes too long to delete something. Again, in old BB land, just by highlighting the message and hitting delete, it's gone. Same on the GS3. Select a message, then hit the trash can icon. Anyone know how to overcome this? For those of you that use the "T" and "B" keyboard functions on your current BB, they are still there, sort of. From the mail inbox, you need to hit a button, then select either top or bottom. Not as quick and easy. Searching is good, folder integration is great, and the device feels pretty snappy overall. Haven't had a chance to push the browser much. I'm not used to really surfing from my phone. Again maps, no problems at all. I will also sideload Google Maps just for the sake of comparison.</span></span><br />
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fact, if they were smart, they would consider the value of shutting down their money losing app store and
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Still playing around with the device, and learning a few new things every day. I figured out how to select more than one message for deletion or moving or what ever. press and hold down on a message, and a little side menu appears. From there, you can select the "select" key. Then scroll through the message list, select multiple messages, then hit delete or mark as read/unread, or what ever. Getting very used to the hub concept, and it is definitely a time saver. Very very easy to flip between apps or mailboxes, and no issues with multiple mail accounts and calendars co-existing simultaneously. </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Battery drain is a bit concerning however. I use my smartphone a LOT, and have always had problems with running out of juice. I normally have at least one spare charged battery on or near me at most times, and have chargers located within 6 feet of where I spend most of my time in my house/office/car. Any time I am near a charger, I just plug in out of habit now. So that certainly helps. I also keep wi-fi off unless I need it. Bluetooth is always on. I don't like the idea of having to turn it on and off whether I'm in my car or not. Not sure what else I can do to prolong battery life. I close apps instead of letting them keep running in the active work space. I am hoping that the battery is still new and being conditioned, so the performance and longevity will increase. Now that I've decided to stay on the Z10 for a while, I will have to pick up another few batteries and an external charger. Thankfully, the charging port is the same form factor (Micro USB - B) as my last several phones. I'm a bit surprised as to the location of the charging/sync and HDMI out interfaces....on the side? Really guys? Couldnt have put them on the bottom like everyone else?? Makes it awkward in the car, especially if you hold your phone in your right hand....when you're holding it and talking, the charging port and adapter are right where your fingers need to be, and you have to hold your phone a bit differently. Same if it's charging and you're sending messages or emails. Adapter gets in the way and makes it uncomfortable and difficult to type. </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Other than that, still good! Another drop yesterday, and no physical or electronic damage. Very solid device, with a good weight and feel. I have a white one, but I wish I waited for a black one for one small reason. The case on the black one is slightly rubberized, and provides for a great grip. It has just the right amount of tack to prevent the phone from shooting out of your fingers and sliding around. The white one is more plasticized and a bit slipperier. There is some texturing on the back to help, but its still a bit slidey in my hands. Oh well. Good thing this will be obsolete in 6 months and I can get another one :-)</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Still messing around with the phone a lot, and still enjoying it! Getting more and more comfortable every day. Battery life seems to be getting better as I had hoped. BBM video is very cool, and it works great. Nice new feature for BBM. I tried it out twice. Once it worked great, and the other time was a bit jerky. Not a huge deal, but a fun feature to have.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">Some additional information and links about sideloading. Although I haven't had a chance to do it yet, I have a large chunk of time this weekend reserved just for that. I am planning on getting down and dirty with this thing. Thanks JS for contributing links and material to the project. Hopefully I don't render my phone inoperable. I do have a tendency to wander off the beaten path and deviate from instructions. I am even going to attempt to extract apk/bar files from my GS3 and transplant them to the Z10. I have a theory in my head that I'd like to test out. Shit. Hopefully I don't render that phone inoperable as well :-) .Anyways....here's all the links I have so far to do with sideloading:</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Remote Desktop Enterprise - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95477d1318991414-android-app-working-os2-rdp.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...ng-os2-rdp.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Kindle - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95482d1318994507-android-app-working-os2-kindle.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...os2-kindle.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">IM+ - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95483d1318996930-android-app-working-os2-im.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...ing-os2-im.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Android Task Killer - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95492d1319001405-android-app-working-os2-taskkiller.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...taskkiller.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Flixter - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95485d1318999415-android-app-working-os2-flixter.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...s2-flixter.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Citrix (though there is a native people like the android version) -</span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95486d1318999916-android-app-working-os2-citrix.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...os2-citrix.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">IMO - </span><a href="http://cl.ly/0y3D2J3C2z2q2b1X0M0g" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://cl.ly/0y3D2J3C2z2q2b1X0M0g</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">NYCMate (subway app for NYC) - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95496d1319001663-android-app-working-os2-nycsubway.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...-nycsubway.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Office Suite Pro - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95503&stc=1&d=1319005670" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...1&d=1319005670</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">ezPDF (Haven't tested let us know) - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95505&stc=1&d=1319005735" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...1&d=1319005735</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Opera Mobile (haven't tested) - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95504&stc=1&d=1319005670" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...1&d=1319005670</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Skyfire (haven't tested) - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95506&stc=1&d=1319005783" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...1&d=1319005783</a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Plume - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95567d1319042945-android-app-working-os2-pp264.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...-os2-pp264.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Tweetcast - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95570d1319042991-android-app-working-os2-tweetcast.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...-tweetcast.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Dolphin - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95565d1319042907-android-app-working-os2-dolphin.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...s2-dolphin.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">iSilo - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95566d1319042922-android-app-working-os2-isilo527and.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...silo527and.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Tapatalk - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95569d1319042970-android-app-working-os2-tapatalk.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...2-tapatalk.zip</a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">KiK Messenger - </span><a href="http://www.multiupload.com/AKATNDA2Q0" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://www.multiupload.com/AKATNDA2Q0</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">IMDB - </span><a href="http://www.multiupload.com/Z3MEEUUISX" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://www.multiupload.com/Z3MEEUUISX</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Gmail - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95574d1319044862-os-2-0-beta-android-apps-apks-bars-tested-confirmed-failed-testing-converting-gmail235.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...g-gmail235.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Kaitenmail - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/playbook-apps-games-f243/95577d1319046141-android-app-working-os2-kaitenmail.zip" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...kaitenmail.zip</a></span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">Moboplayer - </span><a href="http://forums.crackberry.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95580&stc=1&d=1319048619" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://forums.crackberry.com/attachm...1&d=1319048619</a></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">To create and sign your own bar files from apk (android apps).</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">1. Go here: </span><a href="https://bdsc.webapps.blackberry.com/android/tool" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">https://bdsc.webapps.blackberry.com/android/tool</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;"> and download the Comman-line tools.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">2. Go here: </span><a href="http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/ja...ads/index.html</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;"> and download the java jdk. </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">3. Go here: </span><a href="http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;"> and download the android sdk. Once installed make sure to download the 2.3.3 ver 10 update.</span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: deepskyblue; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">Please make sure you install Android APK 2.3.3 API 10 Revision 2. You will see it in the download list.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">4. Register for your own signing keys.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">5. Extract the download from the command line tools to a folder, I created folder c:\apkbar</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">6. To make things easy I would install the android sdk to c:\apkbar or copy it to c:\apkbar because you have to point to it in the command prompt.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">7. Create a folder to save your apk files in, I used c:\apk</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">8. Open the command prompt and browse to your Command line tools folder, in my case it was c:\apkbar\</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">9. Type the following:</span><br />
<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">apk2bar <location of apk> <location of sdk> -t <location to save bar></span><br />
<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">if you used my folders it would be:</span><br />
<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">apk2bar c:\apk\kindle.apk c:\apkbar\sdk\ -t c:\apk</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">10. Next we are going to sign the bar file, while still in the command prompt type the following:</span><br />
<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; line-height: 24px;">batchbar-signer <location of bar file> <location of development key> <passcode> <passcode></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;">11. Install via DDPB ( </span><a href="http://www.filearchivehaven.com/2011/10/20/blackberry-android-and-thank-you-ddpb-installer/" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: white; color: #1655a5; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px; text-decoration: initial;" target="_blank">http://www.filearchivehaven.com/2011...dpb-installer/</a><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 24px;"> )</span>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">So I finally got around to trying out sideloading! It does work for some apps, not at all for others, and partially for a few. Let me try and make some sense out of it.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">First off, you will hear me talking about bar files and apk files. Here is a quick summary:</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;"><u>BAR</u> file - a package file that contains all of the resources that the application requires to run on a BlackBerry tablet or BlackBerry 10 device.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;"><u>APK</u> file - the file format used to distribute and install application software and middleware onto Google's Android operating system.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">So to get an application on to a BB10 device, it needs to be properly packaged in <u>bar</u> format. There are a number of sites on the internet where you can go and download bar files, but obviously there are many more out there for apk files. There are also a number of apk-->bar converters.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">great site for bar files: <a href="http://bit.ly/14ZYAqN">http://bit.ly/14ZYAqN</a></span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;">great site for apk files: <a href="http://bit.ly/12y4yRe">http://bit.ly/12y4yRe</a></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">Of the bar files I downloaded and tried to install, here are the results:</span></span><br />
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<li><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 18px;">Flipboard</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 18px;">Dropbox</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 18px;">Ebay</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 18px;">Google Maps</span></li>
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<li><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 18px;">Wikipedia</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 18px;">Paypal</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 18px;">Skype</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 18px;">Whatsapp</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 18px;">Winamp</span></li>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">The ones that were successful all work great. Pretty trippy to have the same version and feel of the apps that were on my GS3 on my Z10. </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">The ones that didn't work, all seem to have some characteristics in common I've noticed. Whatsapp and Skype need access to the phonebook and contacts API (and probably more) from the phone, and the android apps are coded to look in the spot where androids store that information. On the BB10's, that location and API call are slightly different. Some people have reported the ability to message over whatsapp in a limited capacity, and without your contact list available. Inbound messages work no problem at all, and for outbound messaging, you need to know the person's phone number, as opposed to selecting from the contact list. A bit goofy, but works none the less. This was not the case for me, as I received an error right off the bat and the software aborted. Same for skype. Unable to get it to load.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">Winamp and soundhound also wouldn't work for me, crash and software error. I think it has something to do with the sound subsystem API calls being slightly incompatible between android and BB10.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">Paypal didn't work either, and I can't explain that one other than some security related issue. Banking apps in general are hard to sideload, simply because of the stringent security requirements and precautions that are unique on each mobile OS platform.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">No idea why wikipedia didn't work.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">So for my next steps, I want to go after the ones that failed from the bar files I found on the web. I want to make my own bar files from the apk files on google play. This is another way to obtain bar files. It gets a bit tedious, and it's a bit nerdy. Here's what you need to do:</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">You essentially have to download an android simulator program to your PC, then edit in your actual android device ID and google play account credentials. This simulator then accesses the play store, appears as a "smartphone", and allows you to shop for and download apps, and then downloads them in apk format to your "smartphone". Once they are on your PC, you need to run them through an apk to bar converter. This basically takes in an apk file, crunches it and reformats it, and spits it out as a bar file. Now you can sideload this bar file onto your BB10 :-)</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">good link and forum posts explaining this: <a href="http://bit.ly/Z89zLx">http://bit.ly/Z89zLx</a></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">Thats about it for now, hope that helped explain some of the madness that is possible with these amazing devices! </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">Please feel free to comment or add additional information/links you have come across. Looking to hear some other people's experiences and stories as well.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">Have a great Sunday! Sandman out.</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: red; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large; line-height: 18px;">17/02 10:48pm MST - More sideloading</span><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;"><br /></span></span>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">GREAT link on apk-->bar files. Lots already converted.</span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;"><a href="http://bit.ly/ZlDG5W">http://bit.ly/ZlDG5W</a></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">Another link with 90+ converted and tested files:</span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><a href="http://bit.ly/WRalOi"><span style="line-height: 18px;">http://bit.ly/WRalOi</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">Got WinAmp and Speedtest back on and working. Still no luck with WhatsApp. </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"><span style="line-height: 18px;">the plan for tomorrow is to try my own apk-->bar file conversion and loading.</span></span><br />
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